Chandrima and I were among the first to be shown the shrike in
question by the guide Sanjay on January 13th this year. On that day,
there was only one individual. We had posted the pics to individual
experts, but not to the forum.
I assumed that there would be several photos on the forum as quite a
few members have seen the shrike in subsequent weeks.
There aren't - for some reason, I cannot view any attachment in Mr.
Bodhisattwa Dasgupta's email, and also haven't seen any email with the
pics (by Dr. Sanjay Agarwal) that Mr. Sunil Kumar had mentioned he
would post last week.
So I am now posting to the Group the ones that I took, which I
actually should have done much earlier, but for my laziness:-)
Mine show a definite contrast between the crown and back colours, THAT
is for sure.
Brown Shrike or Isabelline Shrike ssp phoenicuroides - take your pick.
I certainly have.
Regards
Amitava Misra
On 2/3/13, Bodhisattwa Dasgupta <bodhijobs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was in Sultanpur today and I guess I have seen the so much talked about
> shrike today. I also felt its a Brown Shrike though I am no expert by any
> stretch of imagination (except some general knowledge), the shrike was
> jumping all over hence couldnt get a decent shot at it.
>
> Still sharing the pic I have so as to get a view from the experienced
> birders here.
>
> Thanks
>
> B Dasgupta
>
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> At 2013-02-02 12:03:49 -0000, aksawant10@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > My observation is as follows
>>
>> Thanks for presenting your observations.
>>
>>
>> > 1.Isabelline shrike/Rofous-tailed Shrike (in case of Male bird) has
>> > White mirror patch on base of Primaries(wing) which is Absent in Brown
>> > shrike. In both the birds white patch on primaries is absent.
>>
>> Please consult my previous mail, or better still, read Worfolk's paper
>> on the identification of brown and isabelline shrikes. The absence of a
>> white primary patch is NOT a diagnostic feature for Brown Shrike. Many
>> Isabelline Shrikes lack them altogether.
>>
>>
>> > 2. Both shrike has uniform rofous-brown colour on upperparts. Flank
>> > region has light warm rofous colour wash.
>>
>> There is little to choose from between cristatus and phoenicuroides in
>> terms of upperpart colour; but the photos I've seen from Sultanpur do
>> show a distinct contrast between the rufous crown and the brown back,
>> which points to phoenicuroides.
>>
>>
>> > 3. Supercillium is extended in front of eye and it is broader near
>> > base of beak.
>>
>> It's not clear here if you are referring to the supercilium (which is
>> white), or the mask (which is black). While it is true that the mask is
>> not distinct in front of the eye in the common Rufous-tailed Shrikes,
>> this does not apply to phoenicuroides.
>>
>>
>> > 4. 3 distinct tertiary feather markings on wings.
>>
>> I do not understand what you mean here. Please explain.
>>
>>
>> > Also Sultanpur Bird Sanctuary officials confirmed this sighthing from
>> > Mr. Richard Grimmett.
>>
>> This sounds like a game of chinese whispers.
>>
>>
>> > Note: Isabelline shrike complex includes all the 4 races of Lanius
>> > isabellinus out of which two races Lanius isabellinus isabellinus and
>> > Lanius isabellinus phoenicurodes are generally seen in our area.
>>
>> Lanius isabellinus isabellinus is not commonly seen in our area. The
>> common subspecies here is Lanius isabellinus arenarius.
>>
>> -- ams
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Bodhisattwa Dasgupta
>
> http://bdasgupta-randomshots.blogspot.in/
> http://365project.org/bodhijobs/365
>
>
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