Thursday, December 25, 2014

Re: (delhibirdpix) Smoky warbler at Basai, Gurgaon

Dear Bill,
You do have a fair point about the legs and supercilium. But there is considerable variation of those features among Smoky Warblers. Just go through the images on OBI (link above). Legs can appear brown because of mud.

The call noted on the field was a softer and quieter version of Blyth's Reed Warbler: "teck"
Smoky is known to make such a call and maybe Dusky does as well...

I doubt the yellowish colour is a reflection from plants as we noted it that day even when the bird was higher up in the reeds. But Mountain Chiffchaff is still a possiblity. Lets positively try to identify this "Mystery Bird of Basai" as it is clearly an important record for the Delhi region. I have attached 2 more out of focus shots in case they reveal something new.

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Sushmita Jha <sushmitaster@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw a Dusky Warbler in my garden today. It looked exactly like, or similar to Udiyaman's post.  Pity I didnt have a camera at hand.

Sushmita Jha
South Delhi

On 25 December 2014 at 17:02, Udiyaman Shukla <udishukla@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill, do have a look at these pics of Smoky as well. These were taken at the same place ie Basai on 22 December. The Yellow center to the throat is very clear.

Dusky Warbler never shows yellow on underparts and so that can be ruled out. By the way I believe I saw a Dusky Warbler in Sanjay Van on 21 December. I could not manage a photo but I saw the bird well through binocs.

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Bill Harvey <billharve@gmail.com> wrote:
These are better pics but still fuzzy. It is certainly not dark enough for Smoky (which is not just an unusual visitor to the Delhi area, it has never been reliably recorded there!). Apart from its colour, its supercilium is much too long and prominent and its legs are not dark enough for Smoky (or indeed either Chiffchaff).

I think it could be a Dusky Warbler which has been claimed for the Delhi area but never conclusively proven. Certainly there are reliable records further west than the very north eastern Smoky.

regards Bill

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 4:07 PM, 'pankajgupta_fm@yahoo.co.in' via delhibirdpix <delhibirdpix@googlegroups.com> wrote:
thanks for your reply..sending two more pic..not sure if it is the same individual....

On Sunday, 21 December 2014 19:02:57 UTC+5:30, Bill Harvey wrote:
Not dark enough for Smoky. Could be Mountain Chiffchaff (which like Common Chiffchaff) are alomost always found in wetland vegetation.

regards Bill

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:32 PM, 'pankaj gupta' via delhibirdpix <delhib...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Smoky Leaf-warbler (Phylloscopus fuligiventer)
Basai, Gurgaon, Dec 2014
An uncommon winter visitor to Delhi
Habit:- Unlike other Leaf warbler found in Delhi, which inhabit trees or rocky areas... it is been seen at Basai. Today this warbler was seen feeding on the water hyacinth(*not eating it *) which was surrounded by Thypa grass. It has a di-syllables call...much weaker than the call of moustached or blyth's reed warbler.

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